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4 November 2015 01:43 - "But I haven't got a thing to wear"
rosefox: Nine icons depicting different items of clothing. (clothes)
Here's our inventory of baby clothes acquired thus far. Parents, how insufficient is this? :) I'm including the stuff for bigger kids for the sake of completion, but mostly I want to make sure we're stocked up on newborn/0-3 things and 3-6 things. Our baby's weight is at something like 70th percentile right now, so I expect them to size out of newborn clothes pretty quickly; we're also planning to try cloth diapering, which may mean getting leggings a size larger than we otherwise would. We have a washing machine, and I already do laundry several times a week (three adults generate a lot of laundry), if that helps with estimating how much we need to have in stock; I don't plan to let pee-soaked things sit around. Fortunate we're getting the diapers from a service and don't have to factor those into the washload.

One size:
1 lightweight swaddle

Newborn/0-3 months:
2 lightweight sleep sacks
1 heavyweight sleep sack
4 pairs leggings
1 pair jeans
1 pair overalls
5 short-sleeve kimono shirts
1 long-sleeve kimono shirt
1 long-sleeve pullover shirt
6 short-sleeve onesies
2 long-sleeve onesies
1 long-sleeve gown
2 footie sleepers
1 bib
2 hats
6 pairs socks

3-6 months:
1 lightweight swaddle
1 hoodie
1 pair leggings
1 pair jeans
1 long-sleeve kimono shirt
1 polo shirt
4 short-sleeve onesies
1 footie sleeper

6-12 months:
1 short-sleeve onesie
1 footie sleeper
1 button-down shirt
1 pair awesome sparkly purple shoes

12-18 months:
1 hoodie
1 pair shorts
1 t-shirt
1 long-sleeve shirt
1 button-down shirt

I am deeply indebted to [livejournal.com profile] vschanoes, [livejournal.com profile] schrodingersgnu, and [livejournal.com profile] d_aulnoy (and their babies, who conveniently predate ours by six to twelve months) for the many many hand-me-downs they have already given us and will undoubtedly provide more of in the near future. We also received many baby shower gifts of nice neutral white, gray, beige, and yellow baby clothes. Meanwhile, when X and I go out and buy baby clothes, we go straight for the gendered things, e.g., the button-down shirt and sparkly purple shoes, which I bet will look awesome together. It's nice to have options.
 
4 November 2015 09:29
kate_nepveu: sleeping cat carved in brown wood (Default)
Oh, that's fine, because like you said, more hand-me-downs are coming and also you may be surprised what you like or don't like or what FutureKid ditto, so you may want to adjust as you go. (For instance I hated shirts on babies until I wasn't carrying them all the time because they'd ruck up, but many other people seemed to have no such objection.) Yay inventory!
5 November 2015 20:00
zandperl: A right triangle, one of the angles marked with theta, and the words "Fuck the cosine". (xkcd - Fuck the Cosine)
We also received many baby shower gifts of nice neutral white, gray, beige, and yellow baby clothes. Meanwhile, when X and I go out and buy baby clothes, we go straight for the gendered things

Are you having hir external genitalia sexed by an ultrasound tech, or are you leaving it as a surprise until the doc is forced to write something on a birth certificate? Too bad you have to pick one way or the other in the end. I mean, they pee different based on that external configuration and wiping's different when you clean them off, but in many ways it'd be nice if you could just skip all that and go gender free - or genderful for lots of genders. It's Baby X all over again!
6 November 2015 05:26
rosefox: Green books on library shelves. (Default)
We know the sex chromosome from the chromosomal testing of the embryos, so no surprises on that end. We'll go with the standard legal gender for that configuration. But we're certainly planning to raise the baby with plenty of gender options!
8 November 2015 04:28
Sizing varies, and of course so do babies, but my experience with babies around the 75th percentile for length (and not otherwise terribly large) was that things fit at about half the stated age -- a three-month size fit at about six weeks, a six-month at three months, etc. None of my kids fit into newborn sizes to speak of at all. Generally speaking, the more expensive the brand, the larger they run.
8 November 2015 08:36
rosefox: Green books on library shelves. (Default)
Okay, definitely need more three-month and six-month-size things. Thanks!
4 November 2015 12:39
more onesies. You can never have too many onesies. We used to tie dye them for baby shower presents, because tie dyed ones showed less staining. Depending on baby's size at birth you may end up skipping newborn to 3 months all together, the sizes are based on '60s and 70's newborn sizes.
4 November 2015 15:20
ext_45721: Rabbit lying on a couch, reading large, antique book of Poe. (snowange.)
THIIIIS. Also, for the first couple years, avoid anything that doesn't have a snap-crotch, because detecting and changing bottoms that pull on and off is miserable while a kid is in diapers.

Also remember that baby clothes vary hugely by brand, and will also depend on your kid's shape-- some clothes are for short-wide, others for long-thin, and some kids are just all over big. It's good to have as large a collection of hand-me-downs as possible, and then move anything that doesn't work for your kid on to the next parents (or your favorite charity) as you go.
4 November 2015 13:59
The jeans and overalls and button things will be a PITA to put on a floppy newborn/not yet crawling baby who probably won't like clothing, if this baby is like most I've raised/governessed/sat. Loose and easy in and out is really the way to go when they are that small. And they grow out of the clothes so fast. Sleepers with footies will be a godsend, and loose, stretchy onesies that snap at the crotch likewise. (i used the same ones with both my boy and girl, and passed them to my sister, who in turn shared them around. The miniature adult clothes got put on for pictures and holidays, but wrestling them onto and off a kid was no fun, especially when they got spit up on, etc. Babies go through a lot of clothes as well as diapers.)

Really soft booties before they walk, and no shoes or socks for floor work--but I bet your medical team has already told you that stuff about growing feet, blah de blah.
4 November 2015 20:58
rosefox: Green books on library shelves. (Default)
The "jeans" are really just denim leggings. But they're so cute. :)

Our medical team didn't mention the bare feet but a parenting book did, so I expect the socks won't get much use.
4 November 2015 21:08
Heh! If the leggings are stretchy, those will be awesome, as long as they don't bind the baby's middle. (Some do.) Especially if they snap at the crotch.

With your real cold back there, those socks will be needed, but what the parenting books probably mention are that stiff baby shoes (such as the ones put on my generation when small--and did a lot of foot damage thereby) are counter-productive. You're going to see the baby doing a lot of foot playing before they get ready for inch worming and crawling. This is actually muscle work, and the softer the socks the better for those muscles. Bare is good, too, in a toasty room--by two months, that baby will probably discover the delight that is feet, and be busy sticking them in their mouth along with everything else in reach. Toe munching: a taste treat not to be missed when you are three months old.
4 November 2015 14:13
Yes more onesies.

Yes to the comment on complicated clothes. Keeping some on hand for dress-up is fun though.

More footie sleepers, unless you're ok with cutting off the feet as they grow - that can add wearability time.

Look up comments on dealing with breast milk poop stains - "explosive bowel movements" are pretty normal and can overwhelm a diaper containment field usually when you are least able to stop, drop and change. :) I went with the same method as for period blood leaks, hand wash with cool water and mild soap.

Mostly everything looks good and expect to need more of what you least expect. :)
4 November 2015 17:46
We had some colorful legwarmers that were really nice for cooler days because they kept the baby's legs warm but didn't have to be moved out of the way for diaper changes like real pants would.

M spent a lot of time in footie pajamas, 24/7. Things with built-in feet worked a lot better than socks for the first while -- I think pretty much until she was walking, socks were just hard to keep on and pants would ride up and the combination was not good at keeping her warm and clothed. Similarly, shirts would ride up but onesies and pajamas would stay put.

Buttons and overalls are adorable but they are not your friends for everyday wear. There are a couple of different ways that onesie and t-shirt necks can be designed, some of which are *much* easier to pull on than others.

Hand-me-downs are great. I love hand-me-downs. I recommend not buying any packs of plain basic solid colored anything because there are just too many adorable printed geeky onesies out there and boy did we get a lot of those as presents! Also solid colors show stains worse than prints.
6 November 2015 02:39
Leg warmers ++!! They're awesome and can keep warm enough with a onesie, I've seen the tiny ones later used as arm-warmers to great effect.

(baby legs is a common name/brand, if searching for these)

In really cold places, hats (even stretchy cotton) are super useful. Which ones work best totally depend on the head shape/size, but my family adored (and still give as gifts) the Hanna Andersson pilot caps that tie on.
6 November 2015 18:44
Oh! I just remembered. Momma here would cut the feet off worn grownup socks for baby leg warmers. Especially those delightful fuzzy warm merino wool-type socks.
6 November 2015 18:44
rosefox: Green books on library shelves. (Default)
This is a genius idea. J literally just put a bag of old tube socks in the fabric recycling bin--I'll go fish them out.
4 November 2015 22:01
Love and recommend kimono style shirts and onesies for ease of putting on and taking off.

If you use socks, or even eventually for toddlerhood, I'd recommend anti-slip socks (have tread on bottom). My fave ones are from "Me-in-Mind," the ones that look like sneakers, maryjanes etc. so they don't have to bother with shoes for a more finished look. Once my son was walking a lot, I went to Pediped shoes.
4 November 2015 22:55
ailbhe: (Default)
I'd say 3-5 [footed sleepsuits with snap crotches and leg-sides OR long elastic-bottomed nightshirts] and 7 [short-sleeved vests/onesies/whatever they are called in your culture], in each size, up to age 12m. Socks - a lot depends on your baby, but as long as you pull the toes loose after you pop the socks on, you won't be binding their feet.

Check the shoes bend *really* easily when you squeeze the toe and heel. Rigid soles are a Later thing. We ended up with sparkly shoes being Play Shoes, for dress up, because they never quite met my Actual Footwear standards. Yours may be better.

Does the pullover shirt have an envelope neck? It depends on head shape but some babies can't manage without.

Babies here all have cardigans; they wear a vest/onesie, a sleepsuit, and a cardi, quite a lot. Slatternly parents like me bring babies out of the house dressed like that, but we also let them crawl around the park in only a nappy so I'd ignore us. They're easy to get babies in and out of because they don't need to go over the head at any point and there are no buttons at the back.

I have a personal love for a baby poncho with a hood, suitable 6m-24m, because you can pop it on and off without lifting baby out of the pushchair/carrier when you go in and out of buses, trains, shops, opium dens etc.
5 November 2015 00:05
My babies wore only babygros (long-sleeve onesies that cover feet), until they were 6 months and could sit up - I felt babies looked wrong lying down in outfits, whereas they looked much better in them once sitting up. And of course were less floppy. Add short-sleeve snap-crotch vest under, cardigan over, even socks over, as needed, with snowsuit or coat for outside when really cold. About 10 would suffice.

But generally blankets were where it's at - when healing and stiff it was great to leave baby on a blanket and then pull them over to me rather than having to roll over and pick them up, and could pick them up in a bag-effect. Can put over them instead of a coat when you want to go out but they're asleep, and wrap round when you've run out of clean clothes (in practice I used vests in a nappy wrap for a couple emergencies, but Motherease nappy wraps were explosion-proof!) My blankets are cut from sweatshirt fabric and Quatlet loved his - Quatling was never too fussed.

Muslins for wiping up drool/posset/your spilt coffee are invaluable, and extra sheets for a cot. For a moses basket, a pillowcase makes a good sheet. If you have a very drooly baby then you'll want bibs.

Piles of clothes are great, then you can establish how different items work for your child (if yours screams when anything goes over their head, then you can stick to front-opening clothes, etc). Apart from 3-6 and 6-18 month sleepsacks, I can't think of anything lacking from your list other than coats/snowsuits.
6 November 2015 12:30
adjectivegail: (Default)
V similar to what [livejournal.com profile] thekumquat said (unsurprisingly since A got many of his clothes from Quatlet!). A had a huuuuge head (40cm circumference at birth) and even envelope-opening shirts were tight on him, plus he hated things going over his head. He basically lived exclusively in onesies until he was more mobile. For that matter it was almost impossible for me to find baby trousers with a snap-fastened crotch, and A liked to splay his toes when you tried to put trousers on him, so even when he was mobile he still basically lived in babygros.

My mum bought us a sheepskin which we used everywhere in winter. Under bedsheet in cot, between him and the back of the buggy (pushchair), just to lie on the floor. Mum also knit a lovely cot blanket (think I've already mentioned that during the next summer she took it back and made it huge?). Anyway between fleece underneath him and multiple layers of knit on top, plus footmuff, A was warm enough in his buggy during that first winter. And although our winters are much milder than yours, the one when he was born *was* the year we had over three weeks of near-constant snow and freezing rain. I was housebound for more than a week before the birth because of the risk of hurting myself slipping on the ice rink pavements, then couldn't go out again for a couple of weeks after the birth either, as he'd been an emergency section and I was warned that slipping on the pavements could be bad for my healing incision. Anyway, the buggy gave me something to hold on to(!) and he was toasty warm.

My only other comment that I don't think others have made, is that we actually didn't even bother with newborn size *at*all*. Partly because A was just under 9lbs already but also because the 'fit' of clothing really didn't bother us. The 0-3 month stuff was a little baggy but it's not like it was going to fall off him when we picked him up. And actually having that little extra room when trying to fit tiny hands through tiny sleeves was a little bit easier. And because I'm a skinflint I didn't want to spend money on a bunch of stuff that was only going to be worn for literally a few of weeks before being outgrown.

You can never, ever have too many muslins. I think by the time A started experimenting with solid foods we had >30 in the house. We still find them, stashed in random drawers, mixed in with the bath towels, the tea towels, the bed sheets. And I still use them all the time - when the kids spill juice, or I drop food on myself, or to wipe down the bike seats, polish the bathroom mirror, when spotting something gummy on a surface, a layer of dust on a windowsill. You can never, ever have too many muslins. And if you are cloth diapering and run out of inners/inserts, fold a couple of muslins up and use them!

I'm going to stop saying 'muslins' now before Chrome's spell checker explodes from trying to tell me they should all be spelled 'Muslim' or 'Mullins'.

Other side note, when doing laundry of poo/pee/puke-soaked stuff I would add one or two drops of tea tree oil, dripped onto one of the more soiled items. It cut through the smell and the laundry would come out smelling of tea tree rather than faint lingering whiffs of poo/pee/puke. If/when you do your own nappies obvs don't drip it directly onto the PU layer, but we had integrated nappies and they were fine in the wash with just one or two drops of essential oils in the water.
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